{"id":25415,"date":"2023-04-04T12:50:05","date_gmt":"2023-04-04T11:50:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.intelligentcio.com\/apac\/?p=25415"},"modified":"2023-04-19T14:00:32","modified_gmt":"2023-04-19T13:00:32","slug":"get-to-know-martin-mcgregor-ceo-and-co-founder-of-devicie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.intelligentcio.com\/apac\/2023\/04\/04\/get-to-know-martin-mcgregor-ceo-and-co-founder-of-devicie\/","title":{"rendered":"Get to Know: Martin McGregor, CEO and Co-founder of Devicie"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>On the lighter side of things, we ask&nbsp;Martin McGregor, CEO and Co-founder of Devicie, what makes him tick.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.intelligentcio.com\/apac\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/44\/2023\/04\/Martin-McGregor-w.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-25416\" width=\"248\" height=\"248\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.intelligentcio.com\/apac\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/44\/2023\/04\/Martin-McGregor-w.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.intelligentcio.com\/apac\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/44\/2023\/04\/Martin-McGregor-w-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.intelligentcio.com\/apac\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/44\/2023\/04\/Martin-McGregor-w-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 248px) 100vw, 248px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Martin McGregor, CEO and Co-founder, Devicie<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>What would you describe as your most memorable achievement?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In 2017, I took on the role of cybersecurity leader for the online wagering company, William Hill, in Australia,&nbsp;which saw&nbsp;me responsible for every facet of the&nbsp;organization\u2019s security and data compliance. Completely impossible for one person but I was able to build a really functional 24\/7 security&nbsp;operation by&nbsp;using a lot of tooling and automation,&nbsp;allowing me to&nbsp;develop a business case for a well-funded team of five. That&nbsp;experience was the catalyst for starting my&nbsp;first&nbsp;scalable business,&nbsp;Secure Measure, which birthed&nbsp;Devicie, and I was lucky enough to work with two&nbsp;incredible innovators who joined me in&nbsp;the&nbsp;venture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What first made you think of a career in technology?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My dad spent his whole career in&nbsp;technology&nbsp;and I grew up around the industry. It was a hobby for me, something I&nbsp;used to do at home for fun that dad and I bonded over. It took a&nbsp;while&nbsp;for me to&nbsp;see it as a bona fide career option though&nbsp;because I\u2019d set my sights on becoming a musician. Although I picked up work easily enough, even before I\u2019d finished school, I felt like I was more of an artist and IT was something I was just doing as a job. That left me feeling quite unsatisfied until my late twenties,&nbsp;when I had a bit of an epiphany \u2013 I realized my creative ability was a big part of the reason I was doing quite well in the tech space. That changed my&nbsp;mindset&nbsp;and made it something I was able to feel quite passionate about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What style of management philosophy do you employ with your current position?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finding individuals who are driven and passionate about wanting to achieve something and coming together to form a small, strong unit has always been my modus operandi.&nbsp;I expect and empower employees to be their own leaders and manage their time and workloads without needing constant supervision or being told what to do. There should never be a reason for me to have a conversation about deliverables or what time someone is starting work. If I&#8217;m having those chats with someone, they are not right for Devicie. We\u2019re a company of self-starters so supporting employees achieve their own goals helps us all respect and learn from each other.&nbsp;My team is amazing, my closest peers are smart and passionate.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What do you think is the current hot technology talking point?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Artificial Intelligence&nbsp;courtesy of all the chat that\u2019s going on around ChatGPT&nbsp;will&nbsp;be topical for quite a while and the conversation will continue to evolve&nbsp;from both an ethical and practical point of view.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Aside from that, we\u2019re in an interesting economic time. Businesses are battening down the hatches and trying to spend less. As a result, we\u2019re seeing increased interest in technologies that contribute to saving time and money. Securing investment&nbsp;is a critical way companies remain relevant and competitive,&nbsp;meaning&nbsp;investors&nbsp;are&nbsp;often the door into the tech industry. However, too often&nbsp;hype and a fear of missing out on the next big thing&nbsp;drives&nbsp;their investments.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Customers want to see the&nbsp;operational benefits and a measurable return on&nbsp;their&nbsp;investment&nbsp;in any technology deployment they choose to invest in.&nbsp;We\u2019ve had a lot of speculative&nbsp;tech&nbsp;enter the arena that hasn\u2019t delivered, which has hurt the credibility of our industry. This will lead to more difficult procurement processes, however,&nbsp;that will be welcomed by tech companies that solve real problems in the world today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>How do you deal with stress and unwind outside the office?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Music would be my number one go-to. It\u2019s therapy, that\u2019s how I see it. Even when I\u2019m really, really stressed, if I start composing a song, I can lose myself in the process and not think about anything else for an hour or two. After that, even if the problems remain, at least it\u2019s given me some respite. I play a few different instruments \u2013 double bass, guitar, drums \u2013 and do the vocals too \u2013 but composing and producing is my favorite thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Seeing a song come together from nothing still amazes me. It\u2019s like plucking something that always existed in the universe&nbsp;only you can tune&nbsp;into and&nbsp;turning&nbsp;it&nbsp;into something tangible. I listen to a lot of my own music and have always focused on making music I personally like. It\u2019s&nbsp;really&nbsp;for me and helping me make sense of the world through a&nbsp;lens&nbsp;I understand.&nbsp;I rarely share my music with others. That\u2019s not what I create it for. It\u2019s something for me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>If you could go back and change one career decision, what would it be?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I was always working towards doing my own&nbsp;thing, but I put myself through more challenges and learning opportunities than&nbsp;necessary.&nbsp;There would have been commercial advantages to moving quicker, especially in the security domain. Having said&nbsp;that,&nbsp;it&nbsp;wasn\u2019t the right life stage&nbsp;for me&nbsp;10 years ago&nbsp;and I wanted to have more business and technical skills training before setting up&nbsp;my own company.&nbsp;There\u2019s also an argument that moving too soon can be more difficult.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What do you currently identify as the major areas of investment in your industry?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cybersecurity will continue to attract significant investment \u2013 and it needs to. Every year, you see security professionals make&nbsp;predictions&nbsp;about what the threat climate is going to look like the following year. It usually sounds outrageous but then, almost invariably, we end up in a situation&nbsp;that\u2019s&nbsp;even worse than&nbsp;the&nbsp;forecast.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The scope and scale of attacks we now see,&nbsp;and the degree to which state actors are involved, would have been mind-blowing to people 10 years ago. That\u2019s unlikely to reverse any time soon. So, like it or not, businesses have to live with it and deal with&nbsp;it.&nbsp;Not just by&nbsp;spending money on building cyber-resilient enterprises, but by building businesses&nbsp;from the ground up that are designed to be resilient.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A few years ago, you were missing the boat if you weren\u2019t thinking about how to create a \u2018digital business\u2019, but little consideration was given to how risky operating a business entirely on the Internet would be. I would love to see businesses think more about de-risking by building business models less dependent on the Internet, or at&nbsp;minimum,&nbsp;could still trade to some&nbsp;extent&nbsp;without the Internet. This&nbsp;certainly&nbsp;doesn\u2019t mean I\u2019m anti-the-Internet,&nbsp;but&nbsp;rather would like to see more consideration for businesses that are secure by design, including&nbsp;using the Internet\/cloud as needed and when it makes sense, and not just by default.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>are<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>the region specific challenges when implementing new technologies in APAC?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Although we\u2019ve done a bit of business&nbsp;further afield, most of&nbsp;our experience&nbsp;is&nbsp;in&nbsp;APAC. One thing I\u2019ve noticed in Australia&nbsp;where we\u2019re based and across the region&nbsp;is&nbsp;that&nbsp;companies&nbsp;typically&nbsp;take a risk-averse approach to technology. Even when&nbsp;a solution can potentially deliver some really solid outcomes, there\u2019s still a lot of inertia to overcome. \u2018If it ain\u2019t broke, don\u2019t fix it\u2019,&nbsp;sort of stuff.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&nbsp;often&nbsp;see businesses&nbsp;hold on to&nbsp;tech that&nbsp;fails to&nbsp;deliver or they don\u2019t have the capacity to consume in order to stay with the herd. Outcomes are very rarely considered or measured, so risks aren\u2019t considered worth it.&nbsp;It\u2019s quite different from the US, where companies are keen to&nbsp;partner&nbsp;with vendors that are innovative. In our part of the world, people are nervous about being in the vanguard. Not all&nbsp;businesses&nbsp;though \u2013&nbsp;at Devicie,&nbsp;we\u2019ve been lucky enough to find a sub-set of customers that want to get on the front foot, security&nbsp;and productivity-wise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What changes to your job role have you seen in the last year and how do you see these developing in the next 12 months?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our business grew rapidly in the last 12 months and, as a result, we employed&nbsp;people&nbsp;to oversee some of the domains I was previously responsible for,&nbsp;such as&nbsp;sales, marketing and human resources.&nbsp;Having&nbsp;experts&nbsp;running&nbsp;those areas&nbsp;will&nbsp;help me drive the company where it needs to go.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For my part, I\u2019m learning how to be a good chairman of the board and chief shareholder \u2013 someone who works on the business, not in it \u2013 and I\u2019ll continue to lean into those roles over the next year.&nbsp;When you work with great people, I\u2019ve found they coach you in their domain of expertise and only rely on you for context and support, but otherwise,&nbsp;my job is getting out of their way and letting them succeed on their own terms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What advice would you offer to someone aspiring to obtain a C level position in your industry?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Stay technical&nbsp;in whatever capacity you can. That\u2019s something my dad used to say and,&nbsp;as a&nbsp;leader,&nbsp;I\u2019ve come to see the wisdom in it.&nbsp;The&nbsp;better you can understand the technology you\u2019re dealing&nbsp;with, the better you\u2019re going to be in every other capacity.&nbsp;Indeed,&nbsp;<em>don&#8217;t be daunted by the thought of new technology.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This sector breeds innovation and being part of it will always inspire you. Staying relevant isn\u2019t as challenging as you may think. Everything new has roots in the past,&nbsp;so&nbsp;if you stay current,&nbsp;understanding&nbsp;new tech&nbsp;becomes&nbsp;easier and easier&nbsp;over time.&nbsp;Don\u2019t be someone&nbsp;who disregards&nbsp;something&nbsp;new without&nbsp;fully&nbsp;understanding it&nbsp;first.&nbsp;There are&nbsp;enough people in our industry like&nbsp;that already. That\u2019s how we lose credibility. Be someone who understands and adopts what\u2019s valuable. Help others navigate new tech so they actually see legitimate business value from it. Become reliable and trustworthy in this regard and you\u2019ll never need to look for opportunities again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finally,&nbsp;if you want to be an effective technology leader,&nbsp;listen more than you talk. Don\u2019t explain the problem you solve to the market, have them explain it to you over and over and over again. Ask questions until you are confident in your own mind that you&nbsp;understand&nbsp;the problem&nbsp;comprehensively. As silly as you may&nbsp;feel&nbsp;for all the questions, you will make up for&nbsp;it&nbsp;with the elegance&nbsp;and&nbsp;aptness&nbsp;of your solution.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On the lighter side of things, we ask&nbsp;Martin McGregor, CEO and Co-founder of Devicie, what makes him tick. What would you describe as your most memorable achievement? 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